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Sunday, September 11, 2022
Temple of Terror
Background -
Its still 1985. The Fighting Fantasy series has come off two particular poor entries. The publishing schedule is now causing quality issues. I did not notice it when I was younger but looking back now they have not all been created equally! Part of this has to be the move away from Fantasy and more specifically the move away from the budding Allansia. Looking back out of the first 9 entries, 8 were set in this budding fantasy world. It also includes the best world building entries (City of Thieves, Deathtrap Dungeon and to a lesser extent Island of the Lizard King and the early Citadel of Chaos and Forest of Doom). We as readers were getting invested in this world. But in the last four books we have moved away from that, with varying success. I do not think having a different format or idea is a bad thing, in fact when done well (House of Hell) it is a great change of pace. But they have to be sprinkled in. Four in a row was too much and especially two non fantasy ones in a row. I always preferred the Allansia ones when I was younger and since doing these reviews I am starting to understand why a lot better.
So its with this backdrop I am delighted that we are heading back with Temple of Terror to where I think Fighting Fantasy is at its best, the setting of Allansia! I really hope this is a good one for the sake of momentum of this blog!
Interestingly the working title is believed to be Dragon Master, which is a much more bad ass title but I wonder if even this early they were looking to do more of the something of something titles.
Covers -
Ah the classic snakeman guard! It is a shame that we only get a tiny glimpse of the city of Vatos through the gate behind him. I would have liked to see more of that vista.
But the real question here is what has caused the sheer look of shock and surprise on the snake mans face?!
I've taken the liberty of coming up with some potential answers to this long asked question.
We can not see the tail end of the snake man. I can only assume it has been inadvertently trod on by a clumsy adventurer who has just failed a luck roll while trying to creep past.
He has just slithered over the Allansian equivalent of a Lego brick.
The revelation while he is out on patrol has just hit him that he has left the hearth on at home (medieval equivalent of leaving the hob on). And that his shack is now probably a smoldering ruin.
News has just broken that Malbordus has run his enterprise into the ground, wizards are not known for making great financial decisions, and the henchman (henchsnake) pension program has collapsed.
This is actually him coming home. It was a quite day and the boss let him slither home early. But as he comes through the door he sees his wife, Mrs Snake, in a compromising position with his best friend, Anaconda Bob from accounts!
The Wizard reprint cover is very disappointing though. In a book full of unique creatures and environments we instead get a close up of a generic Orcs face. This could be the cover for a huge amount of Fighting Fantasy titles. I would have loved to see the snakman get the modern treatment!
The worst thing about this is this is exactly what Ian asked for! Far too generic for me.
Now to me favorite part, the US cover. Always good for a cheap laugh and to make the blog a lot easier. So looking at Temple of Terror....wait....what? Oh no....no...it cant be.....
So the US covers apparently from here just use the same art as the rest of the world. While this makes sense from a commercial point of view, from a comedy blog stance, its devastating.
Premise -
We are first introduced to Malbordus, who we are told straight away has an evil nature. The reason for this evil nature is guessed at being because he was born during a full moon with wolves howling around the hut. I am not buying this for a second. Its clearly the result of bad parenting. And literally the next line tells that his mother abandoned him. Yep that settles it, crap parenting.
Instead he is raised by Darkside Elves of Darkwood Forest. I've been there and surprisingly did not run into any of them. The young Malbordus showed a penchant for magic by making plants wither and die and also controlling animals with his piercing gaze. The evil elves encouraged this and want to give him the power of the ancient elven lords. This magic is so vile that it kills the unworthy. So in order to prove he is worthy the elves send him off to the Desert of Skulls, there to find the lost city of Vatos. He has to find the five dragon artifacts hidden there and turn them into dragons to lead the armies of the chaos to rampage across Allansia. Is this the first time Allansia is named?
I imagine Malbordus is rolling up his stats about now and picking his spells. I wonder if he also is given provisions?
But news of this quest has reached our old friend Yaztromo who I learn only sells magic trinkets to pay for cakes. He arrives in Stonebridge looking for a hero to undertake a quest to stop the other quest. Almost an anti quest. Luckily I am in Stonebridge fresh off a quest of my own. This is clearly meant to be a sequel to Forest of Doom but in that one I was killed by bandits on my way back round to the start of the forest so my guy must be someone else. There is after all a lot of solo questing going on around here.
None of the Dwarfs volunteer. Does not shock me, these guys couldn't even get their sh*t together to find a hammer. So I volunteer and Yaztromo thinks he has met me before. Nope that guys body is still carrion food on the east side of the forest. And to be honest he was a bit crazy so I think you are better off without him.
With that we head off back into Darkwood Forest with the wizard heading to his tower.
Playthrough -
Rules wise we are back to vanilla Fighting Fantasy which is fine with me. 10 provisions are packed but there is a difference. No potion is made available at the start. I wonder if this is Ian trying to make the books harder?
Equipment wise we start with a sword and leather armour. I also have a lantern to light my way. But here is where it gets interesting. I am carrying a rucksack and in brackets it says haversack, backpack! Readers from the start will remember (maybe) that I used to make a big deal about this. Which one is it Ian? He was obviously concerned enough when he wrote it to include them all! I want to know what this rucksack/backpack/haversack hybrid looks like!
Which one is it Ian!!??
Anyway they all look quite awkward for any kind of combat. I resolve to ask any opponents for a moment while I prepare by removing the cumbersome garment from my person.
This excessive tangent may have been caused by a lack of anything to talk about in the setup.
There is a section for spells though.....
Skill - 10
Stamina - 19
Luck - 10
Pretty average but thats ok, would rather that than a Skill 7 which miraculously I still haven't had to deal with.
Yaz just saunters through the forest!
We make it back to the tower after camping out in the forest overnight. We do not have one encounter. When I ask Yaztromo why he says the creatures of the forest respect his magic. It just makes me think what a dick he is since he could have got the hammer from Forest of Doom himself!
Yaz tells me that he will teach me some magic spells since I am going up against Malbordous. Ah yep I am sure getting taught four spells quickly by a wizard will be a match for someone thats been taught magic all his lives by Darkside elves and is on the verge of learning their elder magic.
The choice of spells are -
Open Door
Creature Sleep
Magic Arrow
Language
Read Symbols
Light
Fire
Jump
Detect Trap
Create Water
Well I am going to a desert and Freeway Fighter is fresh on my mind so first up its create water. Which apparently is free to cast. Since this is an Ian Livingston book and ill need to do a lot of searching Detect Trap is next up. Open Door appeals to me so I pick that.
This is quite a choice and I like how its limited. Creature Sleep. Magic Arrow and Fire sound combat related to me so I decide to leave them off. Jump sounds like one that will get me out of bother but hopefully with detect trap I wont get into any bother that requires me to jump. Light feels like a waste since I already have a lantern. So its between Language and Read Symbols. I really want both but not ahead of the three I have already picked. I plumb for language.
And with that I am a part time Wizard. As its so easy to learn no wonder Allansia is swimming in evil wizards!
Yaz says basically we have two options, overland through the Desert of Skulls or go to Port Blacksand and sail from there. His pet crow will guide me as far as the catfish river where I will need to make that choice. He then gives me 25 gold pieces as a parting gift.
This may sound super generous but if the fate of the world is really resting on this mission. I am sure I could have been kitted out better, or I don't know, hire an army to stop him. Or at the very least send a highly skilled and levelled up D&D party?
Yeah these boys look reputable.
So its basically take the bridge to head towards the desert or see if these guys can take me to Port Blacksand. Now I am thinking I do have my create water spell so the desert should make sense. But I can not resist a trip to the City of Thieves. I enjoyed that book a lot so keen to see if we get any more info on it.
I go to meet the captain (sounds like a proper boat as opposed to the tiny one in the picture) and he offers me passage for 5 gold. I dont want them to know I am loaded so try and haggle and get it down to 3. And with that we set sail!
We soon arrive without incident and I say goodbye to the crew and make my way into Port Blacksand. Before I have even got an option on which way to go a strange old man jumps out of an alley and offers to take me somewhere with a good bed and food for only 1 gold piece. Luckily I have spoken to a friend of mine who got a tattoo on his forehead when he was here last so I decline his offer knowing anything anyone offers me here will not be in my best interest.
I make my way to Black Lobster tavern and get a room for one gold piece. Asking about a ship that can take me to my destination costs me another gold piece. I meet with a mate of the Belladonna, Gardo who says they will take me for 10 gps but I have to work for food. On the way to my room I bump into an angry man and spill his grog. Not wanting to cause a scene I use another gold piece to pay for replacements. I lose a luck point for this.
So all in all I am already down to 9 gold. But at least I have passage. After a terrible nights sleep being bitten by fleas (at least no stamina loss) I make my way to the Belladonna. Which turns to be a pirate ship! I wonder if its the one I stole the black pearl from in a previous life.
I get a job on the gunnery deck loading the cannons and straight away we run into our first fight. And the Man O'War sinks us without me having to make a choice or roll a dice. A successful skill roll means I make it out just as the ship sinks. I can either hold onto the mast and drift away which sounds like it should be from Castaway or swim over to the ship that sunk us.
Well they might think I am a pirate but my quest will save the world so I am sure they will understand. And floating around sounds like a good way to die to me. They pull me up and I try and explain so they ask me who the King of Stonebridge is to validate my story. Now I am telling the truth and I know its Gillibran but I have no idea why having this knowledge validates my story.
I am not complaining though as these nice fellows feed me well and restore my provisions (which I assume I would have lost when the ship went down) and take me two days further down the coast before dropping me off.
Finally I am in the desert, hopefully a lot further than if I had walked. I can head East to go inland or South along the coast. I decide to hug the coast line for now. I arrive at a beach with a pattern of shells. There is a spear with feathers at the centre. Can you read symbols? Sigh, no, no I cant. I plumbed for language instead. I decide to head inland instead of risk it.
This change of direction leads to my first combat (since I did not go for magic arrow). Three needle flies attack me and rather kindly they are very sporting and fight me one at a time. I rather un-sportingly kill them. One does land a hit though.
I find a dead body in the desert clutching a pouch. Now normally I would be like no chance but of course we need to search everything in case its got a dragon statue in it. Its a small golden key. Onward we trek!
Could I buy that Camal for 9 gold?
They try to sell me some water by trading for items I do not have but I am like haha I can make water for free. I then get caught in a sandstorm and while I am waiting it out I decide to eat a meal. Once its has finished I find a brass hand bell, just sitting there in the middle of the desert. My luck is already down to 8 though.
Its at this time the desert starts to take its toll and I get asked if I have water. I use my create water spell though and laugh to myself. No running out of petrol in the desert this time Livingstone!
I then meet a nomad merchant who gives me food and water.
Yep every time I eat a provision its a waste. This guy has the most bizarre collection of items ever on offer. Disappointingly that's not a hand grenade. I decide to splurge and spend all my gold. I pick up an Onyx Egg, a Bracelet of Mermaid Scales and an Ebony Mask. Why these items you ask, well they all cost 3 gold and with 9 gold left I took it as a sign.
He tells me to head South. Which leads me straight into the film set of Dune.
I may be in a bit of bother here.
Its skill 10 and stamina a whopping 20. I only have 19 stamina so its a straight roll off and first to 10 wins. After a startling amount of draws I am reduced to 1 stamina point and I am pretty sure this is the end before winning three combats in a row to take down the worm in what has to be the most epic fight I have had so far.
Despite it looking very gummy in the illustration I take one of its teeth as a prize and sit down to eat four meals in a row. All this eating takes time and the desert turns to night where it is cold. As I don't know the fire spell that's another three stamina points lost so I eat another meal. Just as well I met that ship or that cold night would have been game over without provisions.
The book then tries to tempt me with an oasis but as I can make water appear on a whim I ignore it and carry on the trek south. Once again the water spell refreshes me. But I am not wearing a headscarf and end up suffering from sun stroke and losing a skill point! I do burn very easily. Photos exist of me on holiday in Portugal looking like Emperor Palpatine with a towel over my head. I should have known better.
Finally Vatos!
At least that's what the voice in my head says. This in reality could be any place. It is very much wishful thinking on my characters part. I am delirious with sun stroke after all. With no jump spell its over to the door.
I burn two stamina points using the open door spell and finally I am in the city. Ill be honest, this book has kicked my ass so far so I am not in the best of shape. I wonder across the courtyard and descend into a tunnel and instantly get offered to open an iron casket. Well got to find those dragon statues so I go for it. No dragon this time, just an iron helmet. I put it on and get my lost skill point back! This was very much needed!
This was very much not needed!
So this guy is the messenger of death and one of Malbordus's assassins. All he does is whisper sexily in your ear the word death and disappears. My character knows whats up. This boy is now going around hiding letters that spell the word death around the place. If I find them all he pops back up and insta kills me. So I am already having to search everywhere and now there is a chance I turn up these letters instead.
If I was Malbordus though I would be a bit upset that my paid assassin just does not kill me straight up with his power instead of giving me a chance with this game.
Its the first dreaded t-junction next but with a twist. I also get the option to pull on some drapes. Well looks like I better. It reveals a door so I go in.
Ok what is going on in here?
The Giant Centipede is skill 9 and he gets a few hits in before I kill it. More eating and I am down to my last two meals. I cut down the bucket and find my first dragon statue! Its a bone one. I have to ask questions who decided best place to hide it was in a bucket tied to the celling under a giant centipede. Maybe it was Baron Sukumvit.
Another T-Junction but this time my man decides nothing exciting left or right so heads straight ahead, straight towards a pit which I do not have a jump spell for. I make the jump thanks to my skill and continue on.
The early 80s fantasy landscape was obsessed with floating eyes.
I get the option to look in my backpack for an item and the only one I have listed is an Onyx Egg. I have no idea how this would help but try it anyway since its an option and amazingly it works and the eye closes and I get past.
Next is an iron grill which I decide to try and prize open, only to realise that its in the shape of the letter H. One dragon, one Death letter. It also costs a luck point and 4 stamina so its time for another meal! One left.
And its the non descript T-Junction of doom again. Just left or right, no hints or anything. So I head left. Which takes me to a Lizard man guarding some sacks. He gets some licks in but I beat him. And for the first time in these blogs I have used every one of my provisions. God I miss that potion of strength! I find an Iron Key on him and get another non descript left or right. I mix it up and head right.
Skaven..erm I mean Ratmen!
These guys are only skill 5 which I am not complaining about at all! But its strange to have that at this stage of the adventure rather than at the start. Its been a cavalcade of skill 9's so far. I net 3gp and a monkeys tail from them. Another left or right without any clues. I decide to go left.
Oh joy another T-junction with just a cold left or right option. Well I have decided to just go opposite of last one each time so right this time.
The Chuckle Brothers attack simultaneously.
Luckily they are not too tough so I dont take any hits. I pick up a shield from them to add 1 skill point. But I am at my initial skill. It really should be +1 in combat rolls.
I get to use my open door spell again and I find a clay goblet with a heart which I put in my bag. Which by the way must be overflowing as I've had to move onto my second column on my equipment chart!
Another door, another one I feel I cant ignore.
And back onto the skill 9s
Its a death dog! He also gets some bites in and I am down to stamina 10 before I put him down. I see a tunnel in the room and crawl into it. I have to burn a precious 2 stamina points on a detect traps spell but at least it helps me avoid the crossbow that is waiting in the dark.
So I enter the dusty room and I am beset by terrible visions where I think I am being burned alive. I pass out and wake up hours later. My punishment for this. Minus 3 skill points. Honestly what's the point of going on after that. I decide my shield counts as plus 1 now so I only deduct 2. But still its all going to be over soon.
I run into some Giant Fireflies, which normally would be easy but my reduced skill puts me in big danger. And if they land a hit they have a 50/50 chance of discharging electricity for an additional 2 points of damage.
This happens once so I am now skill 8, stamina 4. Hanging on by a thread.
Every encounter is now terrifying.
You get the option to walk past on the left or right. I am going right as its the side the hammer is not facing. This seems to work and we continue on. I am forced into some murky water next and get attacked by some tentacles like I was on the Vandervecken. My mermaid scale bracelet though saves the day and scares the creature off without a combat!
Hello sir, do you know the way to the dragon statues...oh my god your face!
So the Phantom stares at me which is apparently bad. I roll 5 for my skill test so despite my punished skill score I survive his withering stare. I look in my overflowing backpack/rucksack/haversack for an item to deal with him but I have nothing listed. So its a physical fight. My sword goes straight through him and he paralyzes me. Which also costs me 4 stamina points.... which kills me. The text says by the time feeling returns to my limbs the phantom is well out of sight and I walk stiffly along the tunnel. Nope sorry book you did not take into account this killing me.
What I do instead is a few things. First I take solace that the armies of chaos will only have four dragons instead of five. Secondly I curse Yaztromo and all the "Good" people for woefully underestimating the size of this task and hope they all get wiped out. Finally I do all these cursing in another language frustrated I never got to use my language spell I spent so long learning.
Notable Encounters -
Yet again we get teased by being able to fly around on the back of a giant eagle. It does not last long as a pesky Pterodactyl shows up which can lead to an instant death. The eagle then gives up and drops you at the desert before heading away. I mean its not like he could possibly fly you to Vatos.
This guy happily collects nik naks.
You can of course kill the Gnome in cold blood. But that would be a shame as he has found a crystal dragon!
Vatos is full of strange people just wandering around. One such example is an artist just sitting in the corridor doing his thing. He is just like, hey like my art? And you can say yes its great or no its a bit crap. Of course if you do not like it he gets all pouty.
In another interesting scene that has not aged well, you go through a shower of golden rain. Now in this book that takes away your ability to cast spells. But it does not tell you this until you try to cast a spell. But it says you do not realise this but the book tells you thats what happened. And then you can keep trying as your character does not know, even if you do! If you are wondering why it has not aged well, do not google it!
This is a very bizarre set up.
I have no idea who would have thought, I know lets set up a corridor with slashing sword arms. Where do you even go to purchase something like that? What kind of contractors do you have to call to put this in? I can just imagine the joiner going well that's the killer sword corridor done, now to put in that new kitchen.
Leesha runs the joint.
Leesha is in charge of Vatos, so much so that even Malbordus needs her help. She has a penchant for art and everyone turns up to win her 300 gold pieces. No pressure though, if you do not win she kills you. Better have kept hold of that sandworm tooth otherwise its an instant kill. Best you can do is make her run away, you never end up fighting her.
Luckily some other hero retrieved the Dwarfs hammer from Darkwood Forest.
So right at the very end this Dwarf shows up. He has come with the Kings hammer which is what you need to destroy the dragon statues. So couple of questions I have here -
1) If the hammer was the only thing that could destroy the dragons why did they not give it to you before you headed out.
2) How did the Dwarf get ahead of you? Ive been running around trying to get to Vatos via pirate ships, deserts etc. And this guy just shows up in the middle of Vatos!? That bloody eagle must have take him all the way.
3) Why didn't they just send this guy instead of me? He got further than I did!
Artwork -
Bill Houston is the artist and I think this is his only Fighting Fantasy book. From the playthrough the Messenger of Death and the Phantom are great. I really like the Death Dog as well.
That time I got up in the morning and looked out of the window...
This guy is pretty badass if ever slightly stereo typical.
Overall its pretty good. Its not top level and we have seen better in the series but I certainly think its above average. Or it might be that after Freeway Fighter anything looks magnificent by comparison. There are some dubious ones though -
The burning building is a bit questionable.
The disciples are still all wearing their matching onesies.
Tentacles are not his strong point.
The Big Bad -
For some reason my brain keeps auto correcting to this fellow -
With the amount of tentacles in this book it would have made sense.
But it is not the Malboro from Final Fantasy but Malbordus. Another evil wizard.
That Emo kid at your school when he grows up.
Ian actually does a good job of establishing his background and motivations. The book does a good job of keeping him in mind as well as your character is constantly wondering if Malbordus has been here, or if he is ahead of you. There are a couple of failure scenarios where you see him flying away on one of his dragons.
For a wizard though he only cast one spell. Better be wearing a copper ring or its straight up -3 skill. But then its straight onto swordplay which I found a bit strange. He has Skill 10 and Stamina 18 which is a tough fight because by this stage you have been pummeled by the book. Also if he wins the first three combat rounds its an instant kill. I would have liked to have seen more from this battle rather than a straight up fight. But overall an underrated big bad in the history of Fighting Fantasy.
But you do not care about any of that. You are asking yourself the same question we all are. What is in the hole?
So if you get to this stage you have all the dragons which means old Malbordus has been grubbing around Vatos for days and not found any. I assume he was desperately searching in the hole on the off chance of finding a dragon. Or he has been waiting in it on the off chance of having a spooky entrance? Maybe he was rigging a fog machine for it but you arrived too early. Another possibility is that as he is on his own adventure he failed a luck test and just fell in the hole? No doubt -3 skill points. How deep even is the hole? Has he levitated up using magic? Is it just normal sized. Or is he on his knees giving a cool illusion of him slowly rising up like a cheap magician? I have so many questions, any ideas please fire them in the comments.
Menagerie -
Temple of Terror falls a bit foul of the old slap the world Giant in front of it. We get the Giant Eagle, Giant Centipede, Giant Fireflies and of course the Giant Sandworm.
Apart form that there is no real theme here and we see all the stereotypes. A few even have unique combat rules to make it interesting (IE harder). Not all can be fought with conventional methods though. Sometimes you need an item from your back back which a lot of the times makes no sense.
Hmm maybe should have put this in the bad art section for the priest pose.
If you looked at this you have already turned to stone.
If you are distracted by the bright reflections on the swords he has already killed you.
This Mutant Orc is an Assassin and will kill you as he has Skill 11 and unless you have a dagger you have to reduce your attack strength by 2. Best to just avoid him.
One of my favorites though is the Night Horror. He has a unique fight which you will need an item for. You can brute force it but he is Skill 10 and you only have a 50% chance of hurting him. But worse is every time he hits you it is -1 Skill as well as the stamina loss.
He also rather sensibly keeps shooting at you as you rummage in your backpack. Not sporting at all.
This guy coupled with the Messenger of Death and the Phantom add some good uniqueness to the encounters to keep it more interesting than the normal fantasy staples.
Entertaining Deaths -
So So many in this book -
Attacking an unarmed artist. Turns out he has an invisible shield causing your own sword to kill you.
Getting the Dwarf Kings name wrong and being thrown overboard.
Dropping a key made of crystal which shatters. Unfortunately its the key to get out of the room with a descending ceiling and you are crushed to death.
Going outside and getting locked out. But you get to see Malbordus fly off on his dragon.
Knocking yourself out as you try and escape a sinking ship and drowning.
Looking at a Basilisk.
Being blown to death by a Wind Elemental.
Getting stung by a eye stinger and being petrified. The guard take you away to become a gargoyle.
Being shelled to death by a shell monster.
Wearing a medallion of sacrifice and then getting sacrificed.
And of course finding all the letters of death.
But the award for this book goes to killing a tentacle monster. Sounds ok but its blood mixes with the water which of course causes an acidic reaction. And you fall into the water after hanging around too long.
Petes Corner -
You really should start riding Pterodactyls instead of Giant Eagles.
Final Thoughts -
Well Temple of Terror is tough, very tough. It maybe should be called Temple of Skill penalties. But that tends to be the model of the best Ian Livingston books so far like Deathtrap Dungeon. After mapping it out this book has a very narrow path to success. But I understand why. Ian obviously wanted people to have to play multiple times to find how to win. It adds replay value to the book so people feel they get their monies worth. This is achieved by having the need for certain items, tough combats and punishing penalties. Ill be honest I did not feel I was enjoying this book that much during my playthrough as it was such a battle for survival. But after I mapped it out I started to like it a lot more.
My favorite thing about Ian's books is his world building. The background is once again top notch and pulling old favorites like Yaztromo, Stonebridge and the hammer back into it along with new aspects like Malbordous, the Dragons and Vatos really pulled me in.
Early on we had not seen Ian change from the standard Fighting Fantasy formula either. He obviously did for Freeway Fighter last time out but introducing magic in this adventure was a new twist for him. I like that it cost stamina to use magic so you had to think if it was worth it. I chose very poorly though as I am pretty sure the Language spell is not in the book at all!
In the adventure itself getting to Vatos is quite fun and I loved the difference in the two different routes. They feel completely different but it was a bit gutting to find you have to go one way or its game over. If you don't get the telescope you can't trade it for one of the dragons. I feel this is a bit unfair as it would be better to give players the option of going different ways. Might be a better way to add replay value.
The desert trek itself is what you would expect. But it does have more interesting encounters than I expected. Just make sure to take that water spell! However my biggest problem with the book is in this section. The Giant Sandworm is far too tough an enemy at this stage. It is an epic fight but he is unavoidable and low skill characters might as well roll up again. It really needs some kind of non combat option as well to make it more fair for lower skill characters.
I fell Vatos itself is a bit if a missed opportunity. When you arrive I got excited to explore but immediately you get railroaded underground. I understand the format lends itself to dungeon crawling but Ian has already proved in City of Thieves he can write a fantastic city format. We also get a few of the dreaded T-Junctions of doom! But the addition of knowing you have to search for artifacts helps make decisions for you. Normally you look at a suspect area and think no chance I am risking that but here you have to and it makes sense.
But throw in the messenger of death as well and each exploration adds a lot more tension to each encounter which is really well done.
I do wish though there was more to the Malbordus encounter. It would make more sense to have some kind of magic duel or something before it resorts to a standard fight. But there is a lot of tough combat in this book. There are no crazy skill 12 though but a lot of Skill 9 and 10 with high stamina. Not having that potion of strength really hurts here. Although the real killer is the skill penalties.
Overall though as punishing as this book is, it is still fun. Well if you like tough gamebooks and are willing to do more playthroughs to learn the safe route to take. I like the story part more and I enjoyed the story here. Although we do have one massive plot hole. How did that Dwarf get ahead of you?
Yaztromo "Dont worry King Gillibran, I am sure the random guy we just met will stop the greatest threat to the known world we have seen."
King Gillibran "I do not know Yaztromo, If this threat is as big as you say we should have marched my armies to stop it. It seems quite a gamble."
Yaztromo "Worry ye not! I find random adventurers are very reliable. Besides if you marched your armies the Darkside Elves would do the same. This way they have them at a disadvantage as they have no idea we are trying to stop them."
King Gillibran "Yes but we know nothing of this adventurer, not even his name!"
Yaztromo "Need I remind you it was a random adventurer that got your hammer back when it was lost in Darkwood Forest?"
King Gillibran "How many died before that?"
Yaztromo "Semantics my lord. The point is we got the hammer back, which will allow our new hero to destroy the dragon artifacts!"
King Gillibran "You mean this hammer?"
Yaztromo "Aww Sh....."
Cut to a few hours later
King Gillibran "I have summoned my most loyal Dwarf, he will take the Hammer to Vatos"
Yaztromo "I have my most loyal Great Eagle, he will fly him straight to the city."
King Gillibran "Why did you not just fly the last guy there?"
Yaztromo "He was human, too heavy. Would have at best got to the edge of the desert."
King Gillibran "Ah makes sense. Well do not worry, my guy is a hero and he will use the hammer to destroy the dragon artifacts."
Yaztromo "Oh no, I just need him to give the hammer to the guy we sent."
King Gillibran "Why? My guy will be fresher and will no doubt get there first?"
Yaztromo "Principle, its just how things are done around here."
Now Kieran, that makes a lot more sense. I can imagine Yaztromo reading in bed at night about the dragons afterwards and seeing a note about needing a magic item to destroy them and being like oh god! Yeah whomever was charged with hiding the artifacts was probably told to spread them to the four corners of the globe. But couldnt be arsed and dumped them all in Vatos. Malbordus was having a worse playthrough than me!
a) the sword corridor needn't be as complex as you think - it could just be a set of arm length gloves (like they used to have on that game in the crystal maze where they had to pick up ball bearings with tweezers) that minions stand on the other side of the wall from and swing the swords randomly
b) I copied the picture of the dark elves firing their bows at the guy coming out of the building to illustrate a story in Year 9 (ish) English. The teacher said the subject matter was immature - I was fuming at the time, I thought I was over it but seeing it again on this blog has made me realise I am not and may never be
c) My daughter changed the name and image of my logon and I can't change it back in case you were wondering!
Well for A) that's a great point and I know 100% the crystal maze game you mean. I just cant remember if it was futuristic zone or industrial zone?
B) Is easily the best Fighting Fantasy memory I've see so far! But I have to question your teacher! Subject matter immature? How is a man being shot to death by arrows as his home burns immature? If that is immature what the hell was the teacher expecting?! A visceral murder scene? Just as well you didn't use House of Hell!
C) Haha I thought oh wow a non male reading a blog about fighting fantasy!? But normality has resumed!
re: Crystal Maze I'm 95% sure it's industrial. I went through a period of watching old episodes with the kids in lockdown on youtube, it remains the best program ever made!
re: immaturity or otherwise of the drawing, I think the issue might have been that I'd shoehorned it into an otherwise unrelated story just because I thought it looked cool. Regrettably the drawing itself has been lost to history so I can't check, but knowing my current level of artistic ability I suspect it was pretty crap
If I had a bigger house I would definitely install a sword corridor.
Imagine if a guest asked where the bathroom was! I could say 'Just up the stairs, past the ORC with the morningstar, test your luck to get over the huge pit, turn left along the corridor with the waving swords and it's the second door on the right (next to the Diabolos Room)'
How do we know that's not how Ian Livingstone's house actually is? We are in the process of buying a new build just now and I am disappointed to report that despite all the choices around kitchens and carpets I was not allowed to install a sword arm corridor.
I always figured Yaztromo only worked out how difficult the dragon artefacts are to destroy after you left.
ReplyDeleteI find it weird that all 5 artefacts are in the bit of Vatos you explore while poor old Malbordus seems to miss them all.
Now Kieran, that makes a lot more sense. I can imagine Yaztromo reading in bed at night about the dragons afterwards and seeing a note about needing a magic item to destroy them and being like oh god!
DeleteYeah whomever was charged with hiding the artifacts was probably told to spread them to the four corners of the globe. But couldnt be arsed and dumped them all in Vatos.
Malbordus was having a worse playthrough than me!
I still hold out that Malbordus had popped into that hole to answer the call of nature. He looks more embarrassed than evil.
ReplyDeleteGreat shout Mike, I should have thought have that, its so obvious now looking at it!
DeleteLoving the blog - a couple of random thoughts...
ReplyDeletea) the sword corridor needn't be as complex as you think - it could just be a set of arm length gloves (like they used to have on that game in the crystal maze where they had to pick up ball bearings with tweezers) that minions stand on the other side of the wall from and swing the swords randomly
b) I copied the picture of the dark elves firing their bows at the guy coming out of the building to illustrate a story in Year 9 (ish) English. The teacher said the subject matter was immature - I was fuming at the time, I thought I was over it but seeing it again on this blog has made me realise I am not and may never be
c) My daughter changed the name and image of my logon and I can't change it back in case you were wondering!
Keep up the good work
Dave
Hey Dave,
DeleteWell for A) that's a great point and I know 100% the crystal maze game you mean. I just cant remember if it was futuristic zone or industrial zone?
B) Is easily the best Fighting Fantasy memory I've see so far! But I have to question your teacher! Subject matter immature? How is a man being shot to death by arrows as his home burns immature? If that is immature what the hell was the teacher expecting?! A visceral murder scene? Just as well you didn't use House of Hell!
C) Haha I thought oh wow a non male reading a blog about fighting fantasy!? But normality has resumed!
re: Crystal Maze I'm 95% sure it's industrial. I went through a period of watching old episodes with the kids in lockdown on youtube, it remains the best program ever made!
Deletere: immaturity or otherwise of the drawing, I think the issue might have been that I'd shoehorned it into an otherwise unrelated story just because I thought it looked cool. Regrettably the drawing itself has been lost to history so I can't check, but knowing my current level of artistic ability I suspect it was pretty crap
If I had a bigger house I would definitely install a sword corridor.
ReplyDeleteImagine if a guest asked where the bathroom was! I could say 'Just up the stairs, past the ORC with the morningstar, test your luck to get over the huge pit, turn left along the corridor with the waving swords and it's the second door on the right (next to the Diabolos Room)'
How do we know that's not how Ian Livingstone's house actually is? We are in the process of buying a new build just now and I am disappointed to report that despite all the choices around kitchens and carpets I was not allowed to install a sword arm corridor.
DeleteActually that would explain a lot. And I bet the more important rooms in his house require numbered keys to enter.
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